I’ll never forget the day my daughter was born.

I was so nervous/scared/confused out of my mind that I didn’t sleep at all while my wife was going through labor. Finally, after what seemed like an eternity there she was.

A little 6lb baby.

And since that day almost every action I have taken in my life has been to protect her.

I know it sounds cliche but it’s true.

So, why am I telling you this?

Well, I want you to know that this is how things are supposed to be.

Mothers are supposed to be loving and supportive and fathers are supposed to be protective but most importantly, they are supposed to be around.

And that leads us to the topic I would like to tackle today.

The baby daddy!

What Is A Baby Daddy?

So, what is a baby daddy?

Well, Urban dictionary has an interesting definition for you,

Urban Dictionaries Definition: Usually a broke as* man; Who you met through a friend and had sex with when you were upset and confused. Now you have his baby and he doesn’t pay child support.

While I appreciate a good joke this isn’t necessarily the definition I want to be using as we go forward.

So, what is that definition?

Well, I generally define a baby daddy as a man whose baby you have had even though you aren’t involved and he isn’t around to man up (which he should be.)

In other words…

Baby Daddy: The father of your child, whom you are not involved with and he is not anywhere to be found.

Getting an ex back who you have a child with has been a hot topic on Ex Boyfriend Recovery and I can’t tell you how many emails and podcast voicemails I get about this topic.

But the interesting thing is, is that when it comes to getting a “baby daddy” back there doesn’t seem to be anything out there on Google, Yahoo or any of the other big search engines teaching women exactly what to do if they determine they want to get their baby daddy back.

Until now…

One of the reasons that Ex Boyfriend Recovery has become so popular is the fact that I am a little crazy.

No seriously, when it comes to writing these articles I go way overboard. In fact, I am sure that half the people who land on my pages are completely turned off because of the sheer size of them.

They are probably thinking,

“Hell no… I am not going to read this. It’s too long!”

In fact, I have on more than one occasion gotten complaints from my visitors that everything I write is too wordy and I go into too much detail. That’s fine I completely understand what they are saying BUT I will say that “ex recovery” is a complex process and every word I use to explain something has a purpose.

Sometimes it takes 6,000 words to explain a concept because this is something that I don’t want you to mess up.

One of the things that you won’t hear a lot of experts out there talking about is that you don’t have infinite chances to get your ex back.

This isn’t some video game where you can start over if you fail at completing the level,

Realistically you only have a few chances before your ex loses interest and moves on to someone else.

And if I have to be overly “wordy” to help you understand things that could impact your love life for the better than I am going to be overly wordy.

This is especially true when there is a child involved.

Getting a baby daddy back isn’t the type of thing you want me to rush through.

Trust me.

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So, Here’s What This Article Will Help You To Accomplish

I want you to close your eyes and imagine something for me.

Think back to your relationship with your ex/baby daddy and focus in on a memory that gets you excited inside.

You know the feeling.

The one where it literally feels like you have butterflies flying around in your stomach.

That’s the feeling I want to give you again with your ex.

That’s what I am trying to accomplish with this article and you have perhaps the greatest advantage any woman can have on her side. You see, you have something that connects you to your ex for the rest of your life, a beautiful child.

And no matter how much of an idiot your baby daddy is at some point in his life he is going to become curious about his child, usually sooner than later.

Of course, women often look at having a child with an ex as a huge hindrance but I have the opposite view. I think the fact that the two of you have created a life together bonds you in a very special way.

It’s just that maybe your “baby daddy” hasn’t realized that yet.

Now, some of you may be sitting here reading that and going,

Well, why the fu*k hasn’t he realized that yet?

Great question, let’s explore something that a lot of men are afraid to admit.

The Thing Most Men Won’t Admit About Being A Dad

Now, I am going to tell you something really personal and a little embarrassing.

Throughout my life I never really thought much about being a dad (I am one now.)

I just figured that when the time comes I would “figure it out.”

And then my wife got pregnant.

The time for me to “figure it out” had finally arrived and all I could think were selfish thoughts like,

  • I wonder if I am going to get any sleep?
  • Will I still be able to have the freedom to do what I want when I want?
  • Am I going to be one of those lame soccer dads?

Ultimately all of these thoughts scared the living daylights out of me. It’s not that I didn’t want a child it’s that I had never had one before so I didn’t know what to expect.

Oh, and for the record,

  • I didn’t get any sleep for about 2 months but it’s all good now.
  • I am blessed with an awesome family who pretty much lets me do what I want even though some freedom is a bit more restricted than it was before.
  • I hope my daughter doesn’t play soccer… Because I will totally be a lame soccer dad.

Here is my point.

All of these strange thoughts I had before my daughter was born was simply cultivated out of fear.

Fear that I wouldn’t be able to be free… like the bird I once was.

But looking back on the whole experience I am really glad I got a little scared because it gave me some incredible insight into how the male mind works when a woman gets pregnant and has a child.

You see, before I could never understand why a man wouldn’t stick around to raise a child and make a family whole.

I could never understand why he would leave.

But I think I get it now.

Most men may be afraid to admit what I am about to say but I’m not.

WE ARE AFRAID!

Of course, men react to fear in many different ways.

For example, some men will high tail it out of there whereas you have the other segment of men who “man up” and stay.

But I think deep down you already know all of this about your “baby daddy.” The real question you are wondering at this point is if it’s even possible to get him to come back.

Let’s explore that.

Is It Even Possible To Get A “Baby Daddy” Back?

I’m a straight shooter.

Always have been.

So, here is the answer,

Yes, it’s possible to get your “baby daddy” back but only if you do something RADICAL that you probably won’t want to do.

Now, I know what you are thinking,

“RADICAL? How radical are we talking?”

Well, before I “radicalize” you it’s important for me to give you a bit of background.

Do you know what I hate more than anything?

When someone ignores incredible advice.

You may not know this about me but it really pis*es me when I put my heart and soul into giving someone great advice on their ex and they get all fired up about it but when it comes time to actually implement that advice they end up falling short.

I can’t tell you how many times I have seen women do this with their exes and almost every time they end up failing to get him back.

For some reason they convince themselves that they know better than I do.

You don’t…

I have been doing this a very long time and have had some incredible successes,

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Hell, I coach people on exes for fun on my podcast,

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I live and breathe this stuff every day of my life.

And the thing that I have seen time and time again with the women who actually succeed at getting their exes back is the fact that they do something that most women are afraid to do.

They move on.

Well, perhaps I should rephrase that.

They project to their ex that they are moving on

Pretty radical, right?

It seems so counter-intuitive but I can’t tell you how often I have seen women do this time and time again and have their ex suddenly fall into their lap.

I’ll give you an example.

This was a success story that I got yesterday on Facebook,

Does anything look familiar here?

How about this,

She started focusing on herself and her children and, BAM, all of a sudden her ex is back in the picture.

(Oh, and it doesn’t hurt that her ex was her baby daddy either 😉 .)

Look, I don’t believe in coincidence when I have seen this type of thing time and time again.

Women who properly project to their ex that they are moving on with their lives seem to have some strange effect on their exes.

And for the longest time I couldn’t figure out why but the more and more I look at it the more the picture starts getting clearer and clearer.

I have a theory…

My Theory On Why Projection Is Key

Most men out there won’t want me telling you this but it’s something that you need to know.

Our existence only has meaning when we feel wanted by women.

I’ll tell you a really embarrassing story about myself to prove this point.

Before I met my wife I was essentially single for five years straight. Sure, I went on 20 or 30 dates throughout that time but I never committed to anyone.

Well, perhaps I should rephrase that.

Out of those 20 to 30 dates I went on I maybe felt a connection with a handful of women.

Of course, every single time I felt a connection with a girl and made an attempt to date them I was turned down.

In fact, I can remember every single time very vividly because it made me want to date less and less.

I was once turned down in the rain after spending 10 minutes running to this girls house,

Another time I was stood up on a date (seriously),

Ah, but my personal favorite was when I literally broke my foot on a date after it was going so well (she didn’t call me after that,)

Of course, somewhere along the way, after losing out on opportunity after opportunity I decided that I needed to do something proactive to help my chances.

Immediately my mind jumped to the most vain of reasons,

My looks, it has to be because of the way I look.

That’s when I got an idea.

Wait, what if I started working out a lot and got a really fit body? There’s no way any woman could turn this down,

Essentially I had resided myself to working out and getting fit, not because it was the right thing to do (like it should have been) but because I wanted women to want me as much as I wanted them.

Ah, and now we can come full circle.

By projecting that everything is ok, that the breakup hasn’t broken you, you are aggravating your exes reason to exist.

You see, after the breakup your ex boyfriend is expecting you to act like this,

Why?

Because god forbid you can’t live without him.

And the truth is that after a breakup most women DO act like this which only re-enforces his belief that you can’t live without him.

I say take the opposite approach.

Instead of being an emotional wreck, act like this,

By acting strong and confident after the breakup (even if you aren’t) you will project the fact that you CAN live without your ex and that fact is going to drive him nuts.

Trust me on this!

Of course, I still haven’t answered one of the most pressing questions on your mind.

“How the he*l do I get my baby daddy back?”

Well, the projection aspect I am talking about here is essential BUT there is a lot more to it than just pretending you are ok without him.

In fact, I have a very specific strategy that I want you to follow.

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The “Baby Daddy” Strategy

What have we covered so far?

Well, we have only really talked about two big things thus far.

  1. Most men are afraid of having a child and can run away due to that fact
  2. If you project that you are ok after the breakup (even if you aren’t) you are more likely to make your ex want you back

These are two very important points that I want you to keep in mind as I teach you my “baby daddy” strategy.

Here is the gist of the strategy,

If this graphic makes sense to you then I would be shocked.

Don’t worry, I am going to really detail each and every thing I listed out on it and it really starts by talking about the two main components of the strategy.

So, when you look at the graphic above the gist of the strategy is divided up into two parts.

  1. The No Contact Rule
  2. The Rules For Communication

And within each of those components are certain things that I want you to be doing.

So, here is how this is going to work. I am going to take each component and detail each and every little thing I want you to be doing within it.

Sound far?

Let’s get started!

Component One: The No Contact Rule

Ah the no contact rule…

I feel like I have taught this every single day of my life for the last five years.

Oh wait… I HAVE!

People don’t pay me to be nice to them. They pay me to get results for them and often times results translates into me helping them get their exes back.

And one thing that has become very clear in my research is that the no contact rule is without a doubt one of the best strategies for getting an ex back.

Oh, in case you didn’t know what my version of the no contact rule is here is a quick refresher,

My Version Of No Contact: A period of time where you ignore your ex with the intent of making them miss you while at the same time working on cultivating your own personal life.

Of course, you are in a bit of a strange situation aren’t you?

You are trying to get the father of your child back.

So, does that mean that we can waive the no contact rule for you?

Not exactly!

The no contact rule is actually perfect for your situation since it’s going to allow you time to project (remember we talked about this earlier) and give your ex time to accept the reality that he is your babies daddy (see what I did there?)

Now, when you look at the handy dandy graphic I made for you above and specifically focus in on the no contact rule part of it,

You will notice that there are three little strategies that I want you to employ during it.

  1. Projection
  2. The Alteration
  3. Dating

Again, these are strategies that can only be done when you are actively ignoring your ex via the no contact rule.

But lets talk a little more about the no contact rule before we dive into the three strategies above.

Now, not a lot of people realize this but the no contact rule is really meant to be used as a tool to weed out the people who don’t have a good chance of getting their exes back.

Pretty shocking to hear me say that, huh?

Well, bear with me and I promise it will make a lot of sense.

You see, every person who thinks to themselves,

“I want to get my ex back”

Is going to have a certain percentage chance of success.

For example, someone who didn’t cheat on their ex is going to have a much better shot at getting their ex back when compared to someone who did cheat on their ex.

Of course, when I first started Ex Boyfriend Recovery I thought that the best way to help people was to come right out of the gate and tell them what kind of chance they had.

And that’s when I met Jackie!

Jackie was… well, Jackie was a little crazy.

As she was explaining her situation to me I knew right away that there was no way that she could ever get her ex back.

Again, are you shocked to hear me admit that?

Well, let me tell you a little about Jackie and you will understand what I mean.

She was obsessed with her ex.

Kind of like Gollum from Lord of The Rings,

Ahem… well ex in her case was loosely defined. Technically she had never dated him before but they were really good friends.

And that’s when she told me the craziest thing.

Jackie had a really beautiful friend that she decided to hire to go to her “exes” (again loosely defined) work and hit on him.

She wanted to see how he would react.

He reacted as any man probably would by asking for her number.

Jackie was devastated and it was at this point that I felt that as a relationship consultant I needed to do what was best for her and that was to look at the big picture and get her ready to move on.

So, I decided to not string her along with false hope and just level with her and tell her that she had no chance.

That she had “creeped” her ex boyfriend out so much that he would never look at her the same.

Jackie reacted as I expected.

She appreciated my honesty and then kept on being creepy towards her ex.

And that’s when I got an idea,

What if instead of overwhelming people with brutal honesty that they aren’t ready to hear in the moment I created some sort of gauntlet to push them through so they would realize if they had a chance or not on their own.

And that’s when my version of the no contact rule was born!

The No Contact Gauntlet

I look at the no contact rule as a way of segmenting people into two groups.

So, in a perfect world my no contact rule would look like this,

Do you see how in my perfect world the no contact rule segments people into two groups.

  1. Basically those with a good chance
  2. And those who should move on

But this is only if the no contact rule is properly done.

What my team and I have found is that the no contact rule segments people into three groups,

Look, my team and I have literally worked with thousands of individuals which is why we know that the only reason that third segment gets created is when someone doesn’t do the no contact rule properly.

Usually they break it…

 

Give in to their addiction of talking to their ex…

 

They don’t make any meaningful changes with their lives…

 

They don’t ask themselves the hard questions like,

 

“Is there truly a future with him?”

These are all things you have to do during the no contact rule.

Ah, but I haven’t even gotten to the best part.

As I am explaining all of this to you, you are probably terrified of ending up into these two groups,

But I am here to tell you that you only need to be terrified of ending up in one.

Care to take a guess at which one that is?

Yup, it’s the third segment where you have no chance but still try to get your ex back anyway.

But why not the other one?

Well, we have actually found that a huge portion of our success stories come from people who use the no contact, decide that they have no chance and move on.

Why do you think that is?

Well, this is a perfect segue.

It’s because of projection.

The Importance Of Projection During (And After) The No Contact Rule

Have you ever heard of “The Grass is Greener Syndrome?”

If you haven’t then here is an article I wrote on the subject. But for those of you who aren’t in the mood to read here’s a quick crash course.

GIGS: The grass is greener syndrome basically occurs when your ex boyfriend believes that by breaking up with you he can find someone better than you.

Lately I have been noticing that this is the root cause of a lot of the breakups that my clients have been coming to me with.

And it completely makes sense if your ex left you as a single mom.

Not only is he trying to run away from fatherly responsibilities he is trying to replace those responsibilities with something “better.”

You see, in your exes (baby daddy) mind being involved in relationship where he has to man up and take care of a woman and a child is scary.

So, a better situation is to enter into a relationship where he doesn’t have those ties.

Of course, understanding why he left isn’t going to do anything for you. What you really want to know is how you can get your baby daddy back in this situation.

Well, that’s where projection comes into play.

Above I mentioned that I have been noticing this really interesting trend where women get fed up of trying to get their exes back and determine that they need to move on.

The interesting trend is due to the fact that women who do this end up somehow magically getting their exes back and I posited that it was because of this idea of projection.

Basically whats happening is that their ex boyfriend is keeping tabs on their life and sees that instead of acting like this,

They act like this,

And this triggers something within him. It makes him look at his ex in a more desirable light.

And let’s not kid ourselves.

YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO OFFER HIM!

Way more than some other girl that he may think he wants.

You are the mother to his child for god sakes!

You have something that will connect you to him forever.

And that’s why my first recommendation during the no contact rule is to project that you are moving on.

I know…

I know…

It sounds so counter-intuitive but trust me when I say that this is what needs to happen if you want to get him back.

Look, I am not saying that you have to move on.

All I am saying is that project that you are.

Your chances will be better for it.

Your No Contact Rule Needs To Be Altered Slightly

If you were to ask me 5 years ago about the no contact rule and how to handle your ex during it I would have given you an answer like this,

You cannot break the no contact rule NO MATTER WHAT!

Well, luckily after 5 years I am not giving that stupid advice.

Generally speaking I have a strict “no breaking the no contact rule” policy.

However, as I have learned more as a coach and consultant I found a flaw in this way of thinking.

What if you share a child with your ex and he sends you a text like this,

It’s not like you can just ignore him, right?

I mean, in this case you probably do want someone to pick up little Ricky at school.

I know…

I know…

Ricky is such a lame name for a make believe kid but bear with me here people.

If you are trying to get your baby daddy back AND you are in the midst of a no contact rule I want you to make one simple alteration.

If your ex texts you about your child you are allowed to break the no contact rule for one simple interaction with him about that child.

Now, let me be clear.

This isn’t me saying that if your ex texts you about your kid that you can open up the floodgates of emotion and turn into miss chatterbox.

I am not saying that at all.

There are very clear rules that I want you to follow.

  • You are only allowed to respond one time IF he is the one that brings up your child
  • You are NOT allowed to reach out to him during no contact to talk about your child
  • If he calls you, you cannot pick it up
  • If he calls you and leaves a voicemail about your child then you are only supposed to respond to him with one text message answering his questions

Get it?

Got it?

Good!

Let’s move on.

I Want You To Do Something Controversial For Me… Go On A Date

If I am being honest with you I came up with this idea as a gut feeling.

My gut is telling me that this will work like gangbusters…

And to be honest with you my gut is very rarely wrong.

In fact, almost every woman who has tried this tactic out has seen some type of positive result from it and it perfectly aligns with my theory on projection.

So, what is this idea?

I want you to go on a date.

I know…

I know…

You are a single mom… (That doesn’t mean you can’t go on a date.)

You don’t have time… (Make time!)

Won’t that just piss him off? (Here’s an idea… Who cares?)

Look, I have a 1 and a half year old daughter (at the time of this writing) and I know how much of a time commitment she requires. It is literally an all day job taking care of her.

In fact, the only reason I am able to sit in my office and pump out these articles is due to the fact that my awesome wife watches her all day.

Without that I am pretty sure this site would disappear into oblivion (scary I know.)

I get that children require a huge time commitment and I am betting your ex understands that to.

So, lets just go out on a limb and assume the he understands that.

In his mind there is no possible way that you could make time to go on a date.

Imagine the shock on his face when he hears through the grapevine that you are on a date.

His view of your reality will completely change and that’s a good thing.

What’s that famous phrase they use about consumers?

Competition is a good thing…

And in this case it definitely is.

Use your time during no contact to go on a few days. Really sell the projection idea.

The Rules For Communication

Now we are getting to the good stuff.

Below are the rules that I want you to follow after you have successfully employed the no contact rule,

  • No Talking About Children First
  • Disciplined Conversations
  • Hit On Similarities
  • Prove You Are Picky But Still Like Them

Now, I realize some of you may be reading this and thinking,

“Holy Crap! How the heck am I supposed to do all of this stuff? What does it even mean?”

If this is you please take a deep breath and know, like always, I have your back.

I am going to go down the list above and explain each little rule in detail!

No Talking About Children First

I know this seems a weird rule but it’s here for a reason.

You see, a few months ago I interviewed a woman by the name of Marina Margulis where we talked about empowering women after a breakup.

You can watch our interview below,

Somewhere in the interview we got to talking about couples who have kids together and I mentioned that now that my wife and I have our own little bundle of joy a lot of our conversations revolve around the baby.

What Marina said next even shocked me…

“That can be dangerous! One of the biggest issues with couples I see now-a-day’s is the fact that all of their conversations revolve around children.”

And the more I thought about it the more I thought that she was right.

If a couple talks non stop about their children together then it’s almost like the identity of their relationship becomes about that child.

And that’s a problem I see a lot of women with kids fall into with their ex.

Instead of trying to talk about things that will re-attract him they talk about their kids and while kids can be a great anchoring point they probably aren’t going to re-attract him.

So, here is the rule I want you to abide by when you text, talk on the phone or in person.

I don’t want you to bring up your children at all. Let him do it.

If he does then you have my permission to open up the floodgates with cute baby pictures,

Get it?

Got it?

Good!

Let’s move on.

Disciplined Conversations

What do you think I mean by disciplined conversations?

Well, when I talk about being disciplined what I am really harping on is how you are ending your conversations.

One thing I see all too often with women is the fact that when they finally do start talking to their “baby daddy” they get enamored with the conversation and forget to end it first.

Ending the conversations first and leaving a man wanting more is key to the strategy I teach.

And I have found that the women who do it successfully have incredible results.

Don’t forget to end conversations first.

Hit On Similarities

This is something that a lot of women forget.

Last night my wife and I were watching “The Bachelor.”

Now, before you judge me based on the fact that I was watching that cr*p I do want to say that technically I can call it research?

Ok…

Ok…

It’s a pretty lame excuse but just bear with me here.

On the first episode of a season of “The Bachelor” 30 women try their best to convince a man to give them a rose.

Of course, if a woman secures a rose she gets to stay in the competition for another week.

But what really interested me last night when I was watching was the fact that there is this thing called “The First Impression Rose.”

Essentially this is a rose that’s given out before all of the other ones to the girl that the bachelor likes the most.

And last night before the bachelor gave the first impression rose out I turned to my wife and said the following,

That girl right there is going to get the first impression rose.

Of course, my wife being in an argumentative mood decided to disagree with me.

What do you think happened next?

Yup, the first impression rose was given to the woman I thought it would.

“How did you know she would get it?” my wife asked.

Well, for one, I understand how men think.

Secondly, I watched and listened the the conversation the bachelor had with this woman and it became clear to me that the two of them had more in common than any of the other girls vying for his heart.

Similarities is essentially the same thing as attraction to men…

And I want you to use that to your advantage with your ex.

When you talk to him make sure you hit on those similarities that you have with him as much as possible.

Prove That You Are Picky But At The Same Time Still Like Him

Getting a “baby daddy” back is a fine line.

One part of you wants nothing more to jump into his arms and beg for him back.

Another part of you wants to tell him to fu*k off…

Which issue do you think we have had more of an issue with here at Ex Boyfriend Recovery?

Yup, most women just want nothing more to jump into his arms and beg for him back.

But sometimes that’s not the best play.

It proves that you are desperate.

It’s ok to make him work a little for your love.

169 thoughts on “Here’s How To Get Your “Baby Daddy” Back”

  1. Britt

    August 1, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    Hey my name is Brittany, I have a 9 month old son. Me and his father did live together before he was born and shortly after splitting in April because our relationship was toxic! We already ended the relationship while staying together because he says he doesn’t want to be in a relationship with me, that we should just co-parent but even though he says that it seems like he still wants something with me because when something goes wrong he’ll say we could’ve worked it out but now I’m just back to the point where I don’t want to do anything with you! So we were starting over trying to build our relationship back up to be in a relationship and it was going great for like 2 months but we had an argument and now he’s back to saying he doesn’t want anything to do with me but literally the same night he said that he was saying sometimes he sees us getting married but then he starts to think about the past so now he says he just wants to keep it about our son. What do I do?

    1. Chris Seiter

      Chris Seiter

      August 2, 2018 at 3:32 am

      Hi Britt!

      I think you need a break from each other you should consider NC because it doesn’t seem he appreciates you enough. Having an ex recovery plan is not just about trying to get him back…but its taking care of your own healing and recovery first. I now he is all over the map about what he is saying, so give him a chance to figure out what he wants thru NC. The last thing you want is investing in toxic relationship if he can’t be more certain about the future with you.

  2. Christee

    July 30, 2018 at 12:04 pm

    Hi
    I was with my twins father for a year. And we’ve been separated a little over a year. We made a year two months after our daughters were born. The relationship started off amazing, yes we had bumps in the road but the good outweighed the bad. Cheating was never a factor. After the girls were born he lost his job and couldn’t seem to get another one. This was when the problems started, because I felt as if I was doing it all by myself. Borrowing money to help buy diapers and doctors appointments, and I felt abandoned. I began being mean and pushing him away, and he desperately wanted the relationship. He began to not even look for another job, and moved out of state and didn’t tell me. Then one of our twins got really sick last year and had to have two major surgeries, and the tension was real between us because I didn’t want to see him. I felt abandoned again. It took some time but we began being cordial, and tried to start co parenting.At the beginning of this year he expressed how he wanted us to work and how he wanted to be the guy from when we first started out. I didn’t know I still had feelings for him until he expressed his, and I realized that I wanted my family. Only to find out he had moved on and there was another girl pregnant for him. He said he didn’t know if it was his because the timing didn’t add up and he didn’t want to make any moves with me until the baby came and knew for sure. The baby is now here and is two weeks old, and he sent me a picture of it asking what I thought. I told him I wasn’t sure because it didn’t look like him, or have similarities to our girls or his son, but he needed to get a dna test to be 100% clear. We recently had an argument and he told me he loved me but he didn’t want any bs or get his heart broken again. And now I’m confused on if he wants to be back with me or just want to be with the other girl and just co parent. Please give me some advice on what I should do.
    Thanks

    1. Chris Seiter

      Chris Seiter

      July 30, 2018 at 4:06 pm

      Hi Christee….i can see why you would be confused. It seems he has chosen a path the leads away from you for now. Can that change? Possibly, but my advice is to focus on your own healing and recovery needs and look forward to other paths you can take that bring you fulfillment.

  3. Lisa

    May 13, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    Hello. I’ve known the father of my 9 month old son for 21 years. We met when we were teenagers. He lives in a different state than me and our son. He tries to visit but I have to make all the plans and pay for the trip. He doesn’t really call or try to video chat that much to see the baby either. He says our son is too young to even remember so he feels like he doesn’t need to see him as much and he’ll build a bond with him soon enough. I don’t agree, I think he ahould always want to see our son and be in his face whether in person or in video chat. He hardly talks to me but can talk and flirt with everyone else on Facebook and Instagram. When I confront him about it he gets very angry, curses me out and ignores me. I do the no contact rule to pull away from him and it works but then he’ll send me a text or call and tell me he misses and loves me, wants to see our son and tells me I can’t ever get rid of him because we have a son together. Why does he treat me like this when I have been nothing but nice to him? He tells me he doesn’t want to be with me as far as a relationship and that we will always live separate lives, but as soon as he comes to see our son, he wants to sleep with me. What can I do to break this cycle and make him step back and realize I am the mother of his son, I should be someone important to him and also, will the no contact rule really work in my situation and HOW will it work with him always texting and calling like a maniac when I ignore him? Please give me some insight. Thank you.

    1. Chris Seiter

      Chris Seiter

      May 13, 2018 at 9:25 pm

      Hi Lisa…these are great questions you have asked. I think you defined the issue. You are both caught up in this cycle and your ex seems to want everything his way, yet won’t offer any commitment. Living far away, only complicates things. And on top of all of that, he is not making much of an effort to bond with his child, making feeble excuses. Does he want a divorce? This living relationship is dysfunctional. What can change it? I honestly am not sure because based on what you said, you ex is all over the place with what he says he wants. But actions speak louder than words. He chose to not live with you and seems to insist that he doesn’t want a relationship. I guess he just wants his freedom, but guilt and possessiveness seems to rise up a times, influencing what he says.

      I think working toward a future where he has a relationship with his son is important, but you may want to take some time and reflect on how much more of your emotional self you wish to invest in this man.

      I am uncertain as to whether NC will help with this situation. Maybe limited contact

    2. Lisa

      May 14, 2018 at 5:15 pm

      Thank you for your insight Chris, I’ll give limited contact a try and go from there.

  4. Maria

    May 6, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    Hi I was in a relationship with my son’s father for 6 years, I found out that 3 of those years he was cheating with another girl and that he a may have fathered her daughter. We argued about it and I realized he was not leaving this girl so I left and ended up in a rebound relationship. I ended the rebound relationship and I started talking to my baby father. However he found out that the same girl is now pregnant again and this time he is positive that it is his child. I stopped talking to him but I can’t get him out of my mind because I love him so much. What should I do?

    1. Chris Seiter

      Chris Seiter

      May 6, 2018 at 8:40 pm

      Hi Maria. I think you should create some space, to the extent that is possible given he is the father to your son. A form of limited No Contact. But do this for yourself, so you can focus on your own self recovery and regain some perspective about what is important to you. It is not unusual for people to go through an addictive stage regarding their ex. There are chemical/hormones that essentially flood us with many competing thoughts. Consider picking up my ebook, “The No Contact Rule Book” as it is a comprehensive, terrific resource that will describe how the whole NC process works and provides a lot of self recovery tactics you can tap into. Also, you ought to consider joining my Private Facebook Support Community (about 1500 women in it now) in which there is a lot of synergy and people helping people. Just visit my website Menu/Products link to learn more!

  5. Gabby

    April 22, 2018 at 11:40 pm

    Hello I was in a serious relationship with my ex we were together 3 years and have a 2 year old son together . I noticed he didn’t like when I said what time to be home . He broke up with me 3 months ago right after we broke up he says he loves me he wants to be with me soon and now today he switches up and said he only wants to worry about our son nothing else and maybe in the future we will be together . What does this mean should I just give up ?

    1. Chris Seiter

      Chris Seiter

      April 23, 2018 at 12:19 am

      Hi Gabby…3 years is a good amount of traction, so I certainly wouldn’t give up. But you can have your space and focus on those things that benefit you and your child Having a child in the picture should create a sense of responsibility on his end to make efforts to make things better. Its unclear what it all means as I don’t know enough bout your situation. Messages are conflicting from him. But as time goes by, he should get in touch with what he truly feels and wants and communicate with you clearly Going forward, focus on your needs and healing. IF you are looking for a blueprint to optimize your chances, all consider my ebook, Ex Boyfriend Recovery Pro which acts as breakup blueprint (available via website Menu/Products link).

    2. Gabby

      April 23, 2018 at 12:37 am

      So if he’s saying maybe in the future does that mean a good or bad thing

    3. Chris Seiter

      Chris Seiter

      April 23, 2018 at 5:25 am

      Hi there…Yes, “maybe” means, “I don’t really want to talk about this right now, but I am still open”.

  6. BellaB

    March 26, 2018 at 12:48 am

    Hello again
    Well, we are about 2 months into building rapport and now i am backing off. At first it seemed that he was going to accept that we were not going to have sex any time soon after being on speaking terms again. I wanted him to focus on bonding with our daughter instead of having sex with me. He was helping out more as a father but it seemed like when he helped me out with anything at all, he was thinking we would have sex after. He started begging for sex which i refused. I told him i needed time, and i wanted his respect. He tried talking me into getting back with him/moving in but i refused. I know its too soon for that stuff. He insisted there had been no other women at all since he left me. I didnt respond to that. Im afraid hes putting on an act to get what he wants from me. Recently he became more affectionate. That wore me down a little. We messed around/made out a few times about a week ago but we didnt actually have sex. Hes gone cold now. Cranky and rude. So i ignored his txt yesterday. I video called him today so he could say hbd to our daughter. But we are not speaking again. We usually get together once a wk for his visits with the baby but i said no today because he was so rude to me a few days ago. Feels like hes trying to get in my pants more than co-parent. Any suggestions?

    1. Chris Seiter

      Chris Seiter

      April 3, 2018 at 1:25 am

      It’s pretty common for him to “try to get in your pants” rather than co parent. It’s a fine line. I never recommend sleeping with a man to get him back. What you can do is demand indirectly more investment out of him.

  7. Lizzie

    March 25, 2018 at 9:15 am

    Hi, I’m going through this tough spot so my baby daddy & I were so happy since I found out I was pregnant but at around 6 months that all started to change (currently 6 months pregnant). He’s divorced with a kid but he never bothered to look or fight for her. I’m hoping with our baby it would be different like he promised. So we came on a trip to Mexico but since we got here to his hometown he started being indifferent & distant with me & I didn’t know what to do. Long story short, he told me he just wanted to be friends because he “wants to be single for a while” & I asked if he was gonna start dating before our child was born, I’m currently pregnant & I thought it was rude but he said no that was the last thing on his mind because I’m pregnant that he just wanted space. Things just got worse from there he wanted to send me back home, he said he was gonna stay involved with me but only about the baby. Every time I would ask him why did he change his mind so quickly if we were better than great he said it’s not you it’s me. I assume he needs time to reflect things over but I can tell he still has feelings for me even though he says he doesn’t. Anyways we currently live together & I just wanna know how to deal with this & how to get him back & work things out before the baby comes. Please help me out!

    1. Chris Seiter

      Chris Seiter

      April 3, 2018 at 1:15 am

      Ok, we see this a lot on our private facebook group.

      What has gotten the best results has been finding a way to get him to move out or having you actually move out.

  8. Amber Diaz

    March 14, 2018 at 11:56 am

    I was with my babydaddy for 2 years, we had a roller coaster relationship, that it tore us apart and we eneded up taking a break, it was his decision, well during the break he would kiss me and tell me he loves me, but when i would ask shen the break was over he would answer with “idk i need time, space and to think about stuff” so i left it, well after we talked about how we felt two days later i told him it was best to be single and he said to do what makes me haply so i did that, i didnt bother him like i would usually do, i would wait till he texted me about our dauggter amd that was the end of the convo, well he came to see his daughter today and he told me he misses me so much, and he misses everything, he told me he still loved me, and could keep his hamds away from me, he was just hugging me and everything, i gave in cause he cried and he keeps giving me mixed signals like he. Really showing he wants to be with me , he loves me, i can see it, he even said it would be good for the baby to see both her parents together sometimes while visiting and that we can still do stuff as a family, but he still says he not ready for a relationship, but he keeps showing me relationship signs he even called me babe, and i tild him this was the last time to do that and he said i know because if we keep doing this while we are single it wont help us move on and i told him “i agreed” but he keeps saying you never know we could get back together so idk he confusing me , he keeps showing me signs of having a relationship but says he’s not ready, so what does that mean ?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      March 15, 2018 at 3:31 pm

      Hi Amber,

      How long have you been in a break and do you still have sex with him?

  9. BellaRose

    March 13, 2018 at 6:40 am

    My baby dad and I were in such a great relationship , almost perfect. We found out I was pregnant and he was amazing for the first 6 months. Eventually my “hormones” became to much and we broke up. I broke up with him to be exact, but I want him back. He now wants to be single, doesn’t want a relationship and says he would have to ” want it ” to get back together. He says he likes to be able to do what he wants whenever he wants without someone nagging. We’ve been broken up for almost 3 months now and I’m due next month. He says he’ll be there for our son .. but I want him to be in a relationship with me too. Anyway I feel like he’s enjoying this freedom / party life so much that I don’t think he’ll come back. He tells me he isn’t moving on and for me not to move on because then he wouldn’t want anything to do with me unless it has to do with the baby. Is there any hope for me? I’ve been faithful and loyal still even after the break up. Please help I’m so depressed.

  10. Nikki

    February 20, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    So I am in a really complicated situation with my Ex Boyfriend. We jumped into a relationship immediately after I got out of a bad relationship. I was depressed and he had liked me for so long that he didn’t care and wanted to help me. We rushed into dating and getting engaged right away. We have broken up 3 times as of now but I am pregnant. The first two times he left he used the reasoning that I was too emotionally unstable and he couldn’t be with me until I got help. I got the help I needed and he came back for about two months. Proposing to me again I asked him multiple times whether he truly wanted this. He claimed this is all he wanted, to be a family with me and this baby. He accompanied me to every doctor appointment and things were going well I thought. On Sunday, Feb 18, 2018, he left again. Saying our relationship had not gotten any better but also said I was progressing a lot. He told me he was depressed and finally took the ring off my finger and left. Since this was the 3rd time hes left, I told him that this was it. No more playing these games. I then asked him if he really wanted our baby to be raised in and out of court and have a very confusing life. He said there was no other way. I let him walk away. I have not reached out since and I am so confused and I need help. He stopped following me on all forms of social media and has not reached out to me. I am too hurt to reach out and I really do not think he will reach out first. What should I do? Should I move on? Should I stop inviting him to all the appointments and just raise this baby on my own until he proves he can be a dad and not run away? The really sucky thing is that my biological father did this to me when I was a baby and I spent the most of my childhood wondering why my dad didn’t love me. He is doing the same thing. If you can give me some advice I would really appreciate it. Everyone in my life hates him now so they cannot be objective.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 21, 2018 at 12:24 pm

      HI Nikki,

      you can follow the advice above and check this one too:
      How To Get Your Ex Boyfriend Back If You Are Pregnant

  11. BellaB

    February 1, 2018 at 9:22 am

    I was advised by my attorney to set a visitation date for my ex with our daughter a few days ago. It went well but my ex suddenly got very handsy. It caught me off guard I thought he was moving in for a friendly hug that I was ready to reciprocate. Instead he started trying to feel on my butt. I pushed him away and said No way, I figured it was a bit much for our first meet up. I didn’t want to seem like a skank letting him feel all up on me so soon. And i refuse tonsetrle for a friends with benefits thing. Also, I want to convey the fact that I want respect now. I feel cheated out of that from our last relationship. He tried touching it two more times before the visit was over. Playfully but still I wasn’t amused. Again I pushed his hands away. The next day we met up for his payment and half an hr into out meet up he got touchy again. Overly sexual. I almost compromised myself and gave in. Instead I said “look if that’s what you want from me, you’ll have to make a lot more effort.” He backed off and few mins later subtly asked me if I still wanted him. I didn’t respond because I wasn’t sure how to. Later on that night I texted don’t take this the wrong way but I’m not your property and I don’t owe you sex, I deserve effort, love, respect. I want to set an example for our daughter.”
    He didn’t reply but now when we txt he seems to be coming at me a lot more seriously. Nicer maybe. He is doing everything he can to help with our baby now. He sent me a txt recently “I will always be there when you need me”. I’m not sure what to make of that. Any input on what’s going on now? Where i should go from here?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 7, 2018 at 11:43 am

      well, that’s a good outcome.. Some men get angry and controlling after hearing your standards but it looks like he respects your.. That’s very good. It will be easier for you to build rapport slowly.

  12. Becky

    January 26, 2018 at 12:11 am

    I’ve been with my child’s father for 14 years off and on. When things get rough and he’s afeaid I’ll hurt him he takes off. He always says it’s the last time and that he’ll never be with me again but then he’ll ask me to come over, we sleep together, and gradually we end up being together all the time. This has happened multiple times. He left again in November because we were in a fight and he said we weren’t together, so I had seen an ex at the bar (who he hates) and had a drink with him. He seen us there and lost it. He asked me to marry him, be together, that he loved me and wanted me in his life forever. A week later he said he was done and didn’t even like me and that I annoyed him. He’s asked me to come over a couple times since and I did but then I found out he was talking to a girl from his work (they both claim they are strictly friends and that is it) and I was mad and freaked out. Now he goes back and forth and says we’ll never be together or ever talk again and then he changes it and says maybe we can be friends in a couple months and the next day he says we could never be friends, he misses me, but we aren’t compatible and doesn’t want to be friends or ever together again. He’s really wishy washy on everything he says and we have went through a million things together in our relantionship. Is there a chance he’ll come back? And what do I do to want him to come back?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 29, 2018 at 11:25 am

      Hi Becky,

      aside from the advice above check this ones too:

      How To Get An On Again/Off Again Boyfriend Back

      This Is How To Make Him Trust You Again

  13. BellaB

    January 17, 2018 at 6:59 am

    Well after that new yrs txt I ended the convo. A wk later I get When can I see you to give you money for the baby? & When can I see you? TXt I waited about 5 hrs to respond saying I think it would be best to let the courts arrange visits & payments now. He agreed but was curious as to why i didnt just invite him over. He then asked about baby’s teething /Baby pics but then said again when can i see you to give you money for the baby. So I haven’t agreed to any meetups until the court date which should be soon. Are these I miss you txt frm him or administrative txt?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 18, 2018 at 7:43 am

      Hi Bella B,

      if he keeps asking that in the next days, it does look like he misses you but again, don’t rush things.. That’s your chance to show that you’re not easily swayed.. So, stick to saying that it would be better to wait for what the court will say.

  14. Carolina

    January 7, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    Hi Chris

    I was never in a relationship with my baby daddy but we have history as in we have been friends for 14 years in between those years we would come in and out of each other’s lives. It would just be casual sex between us every time we saw each other we never ask questions about our personal lives.

    We have a four-month-old boy but during my pregnancy he was never involved he would call me once a month maybe skip a month or two but I never took the initiative to call him because I had no reason to practically I did everything myself which I don’t mind because I always vision myself being a single mother. One thing for sure though is that I never doubted him that he would come into his sons life once he was born.

    What throws me off the most is that we talk to each other every day even if it is for 30 minutes and hour or two and we just talk about what’s going on in our lives him mostly about work I don’t mind it I like hearing about his work just like I’d just like I like to think he likes to hear about mine. I’ve always had feelings for him but I’ve for a long time now have put them aside obviously for our child I’m pretty sure he knows that I feel something for him or that I’ve always felt something for him but we don’t get into that. I guess what I’m trying to write is do you think down the road he would come around someday in life to feel the same way I do about him in some sense because we get along so well. My mind and heart tell me two different things but I go with what my mind tells me it’s more realistic. I don’t even call him but I do send him pictures of his son daily he’s the one that calls me every day and when he doesn’t he apologizes I personally don’t expect much of him because I never did during my pregnancy I was fine with that I didn’t want to see myself as those women that cry and put themselves down because the baby daddy is not involved I was quite the opposite I had to be . When I told him I was pregnant his words were “it’s selfish to bring up a child without a father” I lived by those words every day while I was pregnant and in a way I still do just to make sure that I shouldn’t expect much of him. His sister is my longest friend and sometime she tells me what’s wrong with you guys and you guys have a relationship but in opinion we have a relationship as quick as coparents. i’m also happy with that.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 9, 2018 at 9:08 pm

      HI Caroline,

      Congratulations on your baby! Ok, I’m going to be frank. You’ve let him treat you in a way that lessens your value in his eyes.. You let him think it’s ok to sleep with you even if you’re not together, it’s ok for him to talk to you like he doesn’t know what you feel about him and if he doesn’t know it, you’re allowing yourself to continually let him hurt you by continuing to hope that he’s going to change his feelings.

      It’s been how long since you have been fwb, and you even got pregnant but it didn’t change right? I’m not saying it’s not ever going to change, but you’re not doing anything different too, so, how would the situation change right?

      You have to respect yourself first, whatever or however other people treat you, because if you don’t respect yourself, then other people definitely won’t too.

      It looks like he’s willing to be a father but that doesn’t mean he wants to be your partner in life.

      Start with going to therapy. Get professional help first because I’m assuming you might be going into post partum or not, but it’s definitely emotionally tiring taking care of a child.

      Love yourself first. Set up your life in a way that you’re just co-parenting with him.. When you reach the point that you still have feelings for him but know you can carry on life with him just being the father of your child even if it hurts, then slowly start building rapport and attraction again. And don’t sleep with him again if you’re not officially together.

  15. Caroline

    January 7, 2018 at 10:34 am

    Hi Chris

    I was never in a relationship with my baby daddy but we have history as in we have been friends for 14 years in between those years we would come in and out of each other’s lives. It would just be casual sex between us every time we saw each other we never ask questions about our personal lives.

    We have a four-month-old boy but during my pregnancy he was never involved he would call me once a month maybe skip a month or two but I never took the initiative to call him because I had no reason to practically I did everything myself which I don’t mind because I always vision myself being a single mother. One thing for sure though is that I never doubted him that he would come into his sons life once he was born.

    What throws me off the most is that we talk to each other every day even if it is for 30 minutes and hour or two and we just talk about what’s going on in our lives him mostly about work I don’t mind it I like hearing about his work just like I’d just like I like to think he likes to hear about mine. I’ve always had feelings for him but I’ve for a long time now have put them aside obviously for our child I’m pretty sure he knows that I feel something for him or that I’ve always felt something for him but we don’t get into that. I guess what I’m trying to write is do you think down the road he would come around someday in life to feel the same way I do about him in some sense because we get along so well. My mind and heart tell me two different things but I go with what my mind tells me it’s more realistic. I don’t even call him but I do send him pictures of his son daily he’s the one that calls me every day and when he doesn’t he apologizes I personally don’t expect much of him because I never did during my pregnancy I was fine with that I didn’t want to see myself as those women that cry and put themselves down because the baby daddy is not involved I was quite the opposite I had to be . When I told him I was pregnant his words were “it’s selfish to bring up a child without a father” I lived by those words every day while I was pregnant and in a way I still do just to make sure that I shouldn’t expect much of him. His sister is my longest friend and sometime she tells me what’s wrong with you guys and you guys have a relationship but in opinion we have a relationship as quick as coparents. i’m also happy with that.

  16. Caroline

    January 7, 2018 at 10:33 am

    I was never in a relationship with my baby daddy but we have history as in we have been friends for 14 years in between those years we would come in and out of each other’s lives. It would just be casual sex between us every time we saw each other we never ask questions about our personal lives.

    We have a four-month-old boy but during my pregnancy he was never involved he would call me once a month maybe skip a month or two but I never took the initiative to call him because I had no reason to practically I did everything myself which I don’t mind because I always vision myself being a single mother. One thing for sure though is that I never doubted him that he would come into his sons life once he was born.

    What throws me off the most is that we talk to each other every day even if it is for 30 minutes and hour or two and we just talk about what’s going on in our lives him mostly about work I don’t mind it I like hearing about his work just like I’d just like I like to think he likes to hear about mine. I’ve always had feelings for him but I’ve for a long time now have put them aside obviously for our child I’m pretty sure he knows that I feel something for him or that I’ve always felt something for him but we don’t get into that. I guess what I’m trying to write is do you think down the road he would come around someday in life to feel the same way I do about him in some sense because we get along so well. My mind and heart tell me two different things but I go with what my mind tells me it’s more realistic. I don’t even call him but I do send him pictures of his son daily he’s the one that calls me every day and when he doesn’t he apologizes I personally don’t expect much of him because I never did during my pregnancy I was fine with that I didn’t want to see myself as those women that cry and put themselves down because the baby daddy is not involved I was quite the opposite I had to be . When I told him I was pregnant his words were “it’s selfish to bring up a child without a father” I lived by those words every day while I was pregnant and in a way I still do just to make sure that I shouldn’t expect much of him. His sister is my longest friend and sometime she tells me what’s wrong with you guys and you guys have a relationship but in opinion we have a relationship as quick as coparents. i’m also happy with that.

  17. BellaB

    January 7, 2018 at 6:54 am

    I thought maybe my response was wrong. And he had never said anything that polite to me since the baby had been born. Bute he has not said anything g since so I’m back in NC. I doknt k ow what else to say to him. And I figure we can communicate through the courts for now. He doesn’t seem to feel any remorse for walking out on us. Doesn’t seem like he wants to see our daughter very much either. Any advice ?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 9, 2018 at 8:47 pm

      Yeah, I think that’s the better option to communicate with him for now.. just be civil and indifferent.

  18. BellaB

    January 4, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    Hello again i posted not long ago when i had decided to move on or move on w/out moving on. My baby daddy had not initiated contact in the 4 mos since he’d left. I reached out twice by txt after nc in Nov and got no response. So I stopped. On new yrs eve I get a txt “I wnt to see my daughter” we speak different languages so we rely on txt. The next day I responded. You want to see her but you do not take care of her. he responded just tell me wht time and where . He doesn’t know where I moved and I don’t want to tell him. I didn’t know what else to say so I didn’t respond. I sent him a an old pic of him & our daughter& then a recent pic of her. then he thanked me for taking care of her. I am confused now. Did I do something wrong?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 5, 2018 at 11:08 pm

      Hi Bella B,

      why did you think you did something wrong? Because he thanked you? Maybe because he can see the baby is healthy in the picture so, he’s thanking you.

  19. angel

    December 17, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    Hi my baby dady and i we had fight while i was pregnant…the cause of the fight is me bcos i told another guy that the child was his…and now he rejected the baby and he left us …now he have a new gitlfriend but i still want him back..he said he doesnt want anything to do with me

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      December 20, 2017 at 7:00 pm

      Hi Angel,

      have you proven to him that it’s really his?

  20. Jacqueline M

    December 15, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Hi amor

    I have a 1 year old with my ex who also has another 1 year old with his ex such a complicated situation. When we started dating he was single and when I was 6 months pregnant I found out his ex was 5 months pregnant. Anyways long story short he’s had the bad habit of coming back and forth with me and his other babymother. I feel like in the past I didn’t handle some situation like I would’ve done now because of my over heated head and heartache. We only talk and communicate strictly about the baby because we are going thru court and he admitted to trying to work things out with his other babymother but also tells me that when we are together after a while not really seeing each other and speaking that he misses me and to be completely honest in the past 3 months I failed twice in the sense that I let my emotions take over and I slept with him knowing everything that’s going on and him admitting to trying to work things out with his other baby mother. Do you think I have a chance on getting him back and making it work? Or am I really stupidly in love and should just move on?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      December 18, 2017 at 5:44 pm

      Hi Jacqueline,

      If he’s also trying to work things out with the other girl, if I were you, I would move on..

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