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1,382 thoughts on “The Male Mind AFTER The No Contact Rule”

  1. Kish

    February 22, 2018 at 5:13 am

    I have an ex boyfriend that never fully invested in a relationship with me and never told me he loved me, but he likes me a lot, told me he doesn’t want a relationship with anyone, and wants to be friends. We became friends and he has stuck to that…for two years. I thought I was okay with that but now I want more and worry I cant get it from him without moving on… yet I want to move on in a way that leaves the door open for him to change his mind unless I find someone first.

    I went no contact for 21 days and he finally texted me with good news that a friend should respond to. I dont know what to say. Do I just keep silent? Do I tell him the truth (that I am happy about his news but I am moving on…door’s open if you change your mind, sorry?) Do I just text back casually but refuse to see him unless he has intentions?

    If I really do move on, maybe it doesn’t matter, but I thought it couldnt hurt to ask.

  2. H

    February 22, 2018 at 2:53 am

    My partner and I were dating for almost 3 years. During this time he broke up with me but would come back the next day saying he regretted his decision. For about a year things were good. However, the last couple of months things have changed a bit. We live approx an hour away from each other and lately only saw each other once a week or fortnightly. Up until early 2018, this distance has never been an issue until he started playing professional football (he started playing about 2 months ago) which requires him to train every weeknight and a couple of mornings. He also works full-time and goes out with the footy team and friends Friday and Saturday nights. Recently his whole attitude to the relationship randomly changed. It was almost as if he enjoyed having me around when it was convenient but then had other priorities which put me last. We had been arguing because of this and towards the end of Jan 2018 he ended things as ‘things arent working anymore’. For all of Jan he would tell me that he doesnt have time to see me and that it just isnt working anymore which made me really upset. After breaking up with me he kept calling me once a day and I would ignore him as I did not think it was in regards to getting back together. Then 4 days after he dumped me (on his birthday) he messaged me asking why I had been ignoring him and that it had been the worst 4 days of his life. He asked for me back and I ended up saying okay. A week after this things were good and he was telling me how much he missed me and wanted to be with me and asked to see me etc. When he did see me, he told me I was beautiful and that he’s sorry he messed up and he wants to fix things. About 5 days after this, he started to ignore me as we had a disagreement. This disagreement started because I asked how he felt and he said he “liked” me. I said don’t you love me and he said its tough because I haven’t properly seen you in about 5 weeks. Following this he ended things again as he believes that things are not working anymore and that he wants to focus on himself. It has been 9 days since the breakup and since we last spoke. I asked him on that day if he has fallen out of love and he said no. I haven’t heard from him at all and I have been in NC. He also blocked me on facebook 9 days ago but still follows me on Instagram and has been watching all of my stories as well as my friends stories (he never used to watch my friends stories).

    Is there any chance that he will want to get back together? In the past he has come back but things seem different this time. I’m worried that he is happy and has moved on as he is always so busy and probably doesnt have time to think about me. My mum said that he probably has considered coming back but he has realised that things would still be the same. Please help

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 25, 2018 at 10:51 pm

      Hi,
      I think he got tired but that doesn’t mean chasing is better than doing nc.

  3. Lauren

    February 17, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    Please can you help me????
    I think I’ve messed up any chance of getting my ex back, i found out he has taken an interest in a girl he works with and had been messaging when we were together, i put a post up saying that about my suspicions look like they are coming true, he then messaged me this

    (Honestly Lauren all that shit you’ve been putting up on Facebook is just ridiculous… obviously aimed at me and none of it backed up with any proper evidence. My feelings changed, the way you’re acting is only going to cause more problems down the line. You act like your hurting yet all you wanna do is hurt me and get sympathy from everyone. We have a daughter together of which I think should be the main thing to focus on, not you. Please stop these stupid comments and posts. I’m happy that you are starting to feel like you can move on.. but actually do that then) and has now unfriended me on fb. I didn’t reply to that message but do you think there’s any hope if he’s getting with that girl and unfriended me?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 20, 2018 at 12:09 pm

      Hi Lauren,

      Yeah if you don’t do that again and if you genuinely start to move on..

  4. Lauren

    February 17, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    Please help,

    I fear I have ruined my chances,
    I found put that my ex has been taking an interest in a girl he works with and was messaging her when we were together, i put a post up which was indirectly aimed at him saying that I found out what I thought was happening all along was happening, he then messaged me this.

    (Honestly Lauren all that shit you’ve been putting up on Facebook is just ridiculous… obviously aimed at me and none of it backed up with any proper evidence. My feelings changed, the way you’re acting is only going to cause more problems down the line. You act like your hurting yet all you wanna do is hurt me and get sympathy from everyone. We have a daughter together of which I think should be the main thing to focus on, not you. Please stop these stupid comments and posts. I’m happy that you are starting to feel like you can move on.. but actually do that then.)
    He has now unfriended me and I havnt wb to his message but I feel like all hope is lost, is there anything I can do to sort this situation out?

  5. M Morgan

    February 15, 2018 at 1:46 am

    Hello! I’m on week 2 of NC and still holding strong on Valentines 🙂 My question is if no contact is even worth it in some situations. I dated a guy for 5 months; we’re both in our mid 30’s and we both had communicated early in the relationship that we were dating to find a spouse. We had a healthy relationship, very easy and little fighting. During the last month of our relationship, his job became stressful and he was taking 2 grad school classes, leaving a small window on weekends open to see each other. Didn’t bother me, I have a life of my own, but I did want 5 min each day to touch base. I mentioned this and the next day he broke up, citing that I have a more positive mindset on life than he did, and he didn’t think it would mesh long term. It was totally out of the blue, he was also very emotional about it. He said there was nothing I did wrong and to not change myself. I guess I’m wondering how many guys out there make a decision for good. Or is there room for them to change their mind if you talk about your individual needs once NC is over? If NC isn’t worth it, I’d rather say a few final things and have closure to move on.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 18, 2018 at 11:25 pm

      Hi M Morgan,

      Say what you want to say for closure and then start nc.. after nc, you could either continue what you’re doing in your new routine to move on or start to slowly build rapport while you continue your new routine. If it doesn’t work, then move on.

  6. Dstar

    February 14, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    Hello,

    So I’ve been toying with the idea of reaching out to someone who is not a close friend of mine to get a more unbiased opinion. After almost, and I say almost 4 years of dating and one move across the country, I was dumped a day before our 4 year anniversary.
    We were in a good place, or so I thought, there was no fighting, but no real growth in our relationship either, and then one night he sits me down and tells me that we need to talk. He goes on to say that the relationship is over and that there is no chance that in the future he will want to revisit it again.

    I was blown away because never in my mind did I think this was how our relationship would meet its end. He said that he had been thinking about it for a while and that he had to try and shut down relationship mode and come to terms that he would never see the dogs we shared again in order to go through with the break up. He said that he needed to be sure that he could live without me and if he could he was going to break up with me.

    I, naturally, objected, stating in the heat of the moment how unfair it was to blindside me like that, and how tragic it was that it only took him a few weeks to rid himself of 4 years together. The following days I tried to get him to talk more about it, ie his reasoning behind such a serious choice. However, he was very shut down, only stating that he was sad and didn’t want to talk about it.

    I have managed to get some points of clarity over the past few weeks, the break up happened about 3 weeks ago, and he says he’s now at a point where he doesn’t know if he wants to get back together, which is different than his previous statement of never again. He says the he is very broken and has checked out of relationship mode and doesn’t know if he can get himself back to that place, at least not with me.
    I know that I should not keep on pressuring him to talk about the situation if he is not ready. Sometimes I just speak my mind and have him listen.

    After all this has happened, I realized a lot of the stuff I’ve done in the past, during our relationship can be construed as hurtful behavior and I explained to him, that even though he thought I was being mean to him, it didn’t mean I didn’t love him. I think part of him convinced himself that I did not love him and that when he broke up with me, I’d agree and we’d part as friends. I’ve tried to reassure him that I did love him, and still do.
    What I need help with the how to win him back, obviously, but no, in all seriousness, I’m stuck because in my mind he has not definitively ended the relationship, but I also don’t want to keep trying and breaking my heart over and over.

    I want to try and give him the space and time that he needs, but at the same time I want to preserve my sanity through all this. Oh here’s the catch, we live together. I have moved into the guest room in an effort to give him some space, but we share a house and 2 dogs.

    I know that if I continue to pressure him into talking I could lose him for good, but I’m also not so sure I haven’t already lost him. He has told me that he sees himself as single and that’s just the way it is in his head. I, on the other hand, am still hanging on to hope.

    So after being broken up for 3 weeks is it too late to implement the NO Contact Rule. And since we live together, should I mention that I’m leaving to give him some space?

    If there is any advice you can provide, or some sort of virtual hug, or even a dose of reality, please feel free to lay it on me.

    Thank you!

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 18, 2018 at 11:12 pm

  7. Anyssa

    February 9, 2018 at 9:56 am

    Hey, I was dating this guy for 5 months and towards the end it felt like it was stagnant. The last time we FaceTimed was for like three hours at 11:30 at night but had put me on hold for a while to text a female coworker. Of course I got hurt but instead of saying something I kept it in and was short with him through text. Eventually he said work had been crazy and fustrating so he need a few days of space and was thinking a lot. I told I needed some too. Four days passed and he checked up and asked why I needed space. I just replied by saying that some things bothered me and trusting in God, and I need more time. He quickly replied saying in his heart we should be friends. I tried to be okay with it and wanted to speak in person, to talk. Once I got to his place we talked and I told him how that putting me on pause for the other lady was what really bothered me. And I told that I can’t really change my mind about feeling hurt. Eventually we had a deep convo and he cried. But then I did a bad thing and slept with him twice that night, in which he said I was a good person and precious to him. We cuddled throughout the morning and holding hands and he didn’t want to let mine go until he said he was going to miss this. I rushed out of his apartment without looking back, I had to go to work anyways. But yet I did another bad thing and called him once I got to work. We spoke for around two hours. I told him I knew he didn’t want to be with me and wanted to keep that line of communication open. I then got upset and started to question why didn’t it seem like he cared? He got upset and said that I don’t know him, that I don’t know how it phases him. He said that I was being hurtful. I remember the last thing I told him that you might be okay but I’m not and that this conversation isn’t going anywhere and said my goodbyes amd hanged up. Now it’s been around five days and I don’t know if the NC will work or what’s he thinking after that breakup. I don’t know if I can get back together and I really do but I’m afraid if I just wait too long if he’s already going to not want to talk to me if I reach out after the thirty days. I’m just confused.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 9, 2018 at 1:06 pm

      Hi Anyssa,

      Nc is not guaranteed to work in any situation but it increases your chances. Check this one:
      Will My Ex Forget Me If I Do No Contact

  8. Pam Rice

    February 6, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    I am trying to do the no contact rule, but I have no intention of getting back together. At least not right now. I just really need space. But he came into my office today to unblock his number from my phone today. My girlfriends apparently blocked him, but sent a message so he will leave me alone. He said he asked his brother what he should do, that’s why he unlocked my phone. He wants to meet this weekend. Should I continue to ignore him.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 8, 2018 at 12:17 pm

      Hi Pam,

      Change your phones password or at have one. You don’t have to block him but if you’re doing nc, don’t go out with him. That’s breaking it.

  9. Eb

    February 2, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    Okay so I was dating my ex for 5 months and for the last month his communication has been awfully forced, short or non-existent. I got tired of calling every other day, spacing out texts etc. just to get convo or see if he’ll take me out, so I texted him on Sunday asking what is going on. But then I got upset and said I texted him, “there’s no good time. I’m tired and over it! Good luck with her.”
    Due to his behavior it felt like he was giving me his own 30-day no contact. So I ensued my own Sunday night, when i received no response from him. I did not text or call at all. Today is Wednesday and I received this message “Hey ___! I apologize for not treating you better and communicating better. I do hope you find someone that gives you everything to deserve. Appreciate the good times we had though. XO” My question, is he retaliating because he probably tell that I’m doing the No Contact with him and he doesn’t mean it. Or is he waiting for my normal, crying, questioning to follow his statement.
    This time all I responded was “cool, np.” Lol, it’s so not like me, did I confuse him?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      February 7, 2018 at 11:30 am

      Hi Eb,

      he probably doesn’t know about nc. It looks like he ghosted you and why did you tell him good luck with her? Is he dating somebody else?

  10. Eb

    February 1, 2018 at 2:38 am

    Hey, not sure if i need the book… maybe a lil advice might’ve more effective.
    Okay so I was dating my ex for 5 months and for the last month his communication has been awfully forced, short or non-existent. I got tired of calling every other day, spacing out texts etc. just to get convo or see if he’ll take me out, so I texted him on Sunday asking what is going on. But then I got upset and said I texted him, “there’s no good time. I’m tired and over it! Good luck with her.”
    Due to his behavior it felt like he was giving me his own 30-day no contact. So I ensued my own Sunday night, when i received no response from him. I did not text or call at all. Today is Wednesday and I received this message “Hey ___! I apologize for not treating you better and communicating better. I do hope you find someone that gives you everything to deserve. Appreciate the good times we had though. XO” My question, is he retaliating because he probably tell that I’m doing the No Contact with him and he doesn’t mean it. Or is he waiting for my normal, crying, questioning to follow his statement.
    This time all I responded was “cool, np.” Lol, it’s so not like me, did I confuse him?

  11. Saturn

    January 19, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    Hi,so my boyfriend of 5 years broke up with me because I did some evaluation about us and told him we dont really hangout and he doesnt make me priority although I understand that he needs to take care of his sisters but he should think of me too and I told him he could not get someone better than me, so he told me in a bad way never to compare myself with his sisters  (which was not what I was doing andthis really hurts ) he said some other things and he broke up with me, all i said after his text was “Alright dear”. i regret complaining ,not fighting for our relationship or explaining myself. We have not spoken since and he seems to be doing fine( social media) Im so sad, this Is the third week , Im dying to talk to him, I need closure.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 20, 2018 at 4:50 am

      You mean, you just need closure to move on? If yes, then ask him but if he doesn’t answer..give the closure to yourself.

  12. Sarah

    January 12, 2018 at 4:40 am

    Me and my ex dated for two and a half years. We had a healthy, amazing relationship and were planning our wedding. One day, he came home and told me he didn’t love me anymore and left. I did not know about the no contact rule so I continues to contact him for weeks. He was always very annoyed and ignored me quite often. I eventually gave up and stopped contacting him. Its been about 2 months with no contact. It doesnt seem to be working. 🙁 i must have really messed up. Do I still have a chance?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 14, 2018 at 9:00 pm

      Hi Sarah,

      The no contact rule is for you to heal and improve yourself.. How active are you in improving and in posting in social media? If you’re not active, extend to another 30 days, before initiating contact to slowly rebuild rapport and keep improving yourself and being active in posting while doing that.

  13. Nelson

    January 6, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    I had been following this no contact rule since November 2017. He last called me on 28th November 2017 since I blocked him from before he couldn’t reach me. Later part of the day I called him up but he didn’t receive the call and neither bothered to call me thereafter till date. I feel he will never come back to me again. Is it like he was never interested in me? He never loved me? Coz sometimes I check him On Facebook from my nephew’s account and often find him partying and enjoying with his friends . It seemed that he is happy to get rid of me. But throughout 1.5years of our relationship I never felt that he never loved me but for the last few months he ignored meeting me which he denied when he asked. Is it like he had really moved on with someone?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 9, 2018 at 1:03 pm

      Hi Nelson,

      When and why did you break up?

  14. mary kathryn carlisle

    January 5, 2018 at 6:03 am

    my ex boyfriend said he wanted space and maybe we would get back together i couldnt handle maybe and blew him up. He started to ignore me and i blew him up. eventually space went to we wont be getting back together. i started no contact and broke it to aplogize for my behavior previously. He responded positivly and i just didnt say anything. well four days go by and my sister messaged him without my knowledge and he responded a day later but really lengthy saying how he cant trust me. but then says he cant trust me right now and if we get back together in the future it would have to be something new. did she ruin my no contact?

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 5, 2018 at 10:35 pm

      Hi Mary Kathryn,

      not really.. just make sure she doesn’t talk to him again..

  15. Bell

    January 3, 2018 at 4:53 am

    We weren’t official as he said from the beginning he didn’t want a girlfriend, but was willing to see where things went. This turned into having a lot of fun, seeing each other 2/3 times a week, getting very close, lots of laughter and good times. Occasional talks about not wanting the title were the only thing that seemed to get in the way. However he would be the one to bring up/point out that he wasn’t seeing or sleeping with anyone else and asked the same of me. I felt assured by this so the title didn’t really bother me but I did ask if he was open to seeing where it went. I could tell he was hesitant but he said yes he was just confused. About 5 days after the last time seeing him, he reached out to me first that day with pretty normal convo via text. A little reserved but I usually read into everything. I randomly checked his social media about 4 hours later to notice I was completely blocked from everything, even my phone number. I was able to msg him on one platform because in the moment I was shocked and confused. He said he felt it was the only way to tell me he didn’t want a relationship, with anyone, and should cut off all communication. I said how confused and hurtful that was and he didn’t offer much explanation so I said don’t contact me as I was hurt. The last time we had spoke in person he even said he did not want to lose me. The next morning I wrote a long message further explaining and saying how we had a good thing going and I don’t know how he expected me not to feel anything as I followed his lead and how I’d never just cut him off like that. I said I cared about him and to think it over and I didn’t need a reply if it would be the same story. So my question is, since I technically wrote last, now what? It’s been a week. I truly feel something was there, we had too many moments for there not to be unless he’s the worlds best liar – and from our convos while together and interactions I feel maybe he was scared of his own feelings but at the same time someone who cares wouldn’t do this. I am so beyond lost. I miss my friend and the fun and how good it felt. I keep getting paranoid I didn something as we were texting and just a couple hours later I was blocked but I know I didn’t and the one thing he did say was it was just him, wanting to be alone, not me. Please help how to proceed.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 5, 2018 at 9:11 pm

  16. Bell

    January 3, 2018 at 4:48 am

    We weren’t official as he said from the beginning he didn’t want a girlfriend, but was willing to see where things went. This turned into having a lot of fun, seeing each other 2/3 times a week, getting very close, lots of laughter and good times. Occasional talks about not wanting the title were the only thing that seemed to get in the way. However he would be the one to bring up/point out that he wasn’t seeing or sleeping with anyone else and asked the same of me. I felt assured by this so the title didn’t really bother me but I did ask if he was open to seeing where it went. I could tell he was hesitant but he said yes he was just confused. About 5 days after the last time seeing him, he reached out to me first that day with pretty normal convo via text. A little reserved but I usually read into everything. I randomly checked his social media about 4 hours later to notice I was completely blocked from everything, even my phone number. I was able to msg him on one platform because in the moment I was shocked and confused. He said he felt it was the only way to tell me he didn’t want a relationship and should cut off all communication. I said how confused and hurtful that was and he didn’t offer much explanation so I said don’t contact me as I was hurt. The next morning I wrote a long message further explaining and saying how we had a good thing going and I don’t know how he expected me not to feel anything as I followed his lead and how I’d never just cut him off like that. I said I cared about him and to think it over and I didn’t need a reply if it would be the same story. So my question is, since I technically wrote last, now what? It’s been a week. I truly feel something was there, we had too many moments for there not to be unless he’s the worlds best liar – and from our convos while together and interactions I feel maybe he was scared of his own feelings but at the same time someone who cares wouldn’t do this. I am so beyond lost. I miss my friend and the fun and how good it felt. I keep getting paranoid I didn something as we were texting and just a couple hours later I was blocked but I know I didn’t and the one thing he did say was it was just him, wanting to be alone, not me. Please help how to proceed.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      January 5, 2018 at 9:12 pm

  17. Steph

    December 24, 2017 at 8:23 am

    My ex broke up with me out of the blue Nov 15. I tried begging for a week and then stopped. On Dec 1 i contacted because I had a really tough day at work and was about to get fired. I didn’t have anybody to talk to and ended up calling him. We did however talked bout the break up instead of what happened at work. He was being harsh and firm the whole te t messaging saying he doesn’t see us getting fixed, and doesn’t see himself with anyone. After that I initiated NC up until on Dec 15 he messaged me if he could get some of his stuff back. Stuff- that I gave/bought ??? I didn’t reply to him until after 3 days and said I could give it to him after I get back from my holiday with family. He was persistent I’d box them up and leave it for him to pick up. I didn’t reply. He then liked an Instagram photo i posted next day. It was a photo of some sneakers. Haven’t heard from him since. This was Dec 20. What is he doing? Should I keep doing NC and for how long? Appreciate your thoughts and help please.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      December 26, 2017 at 7:19 pm

      Yup, looks like he’s getting curious.. Do at least 30 days

  18. Lina

    December 12, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    I’ve been in a relationship for 9 years. We have two beautiful children together. I did not love him anymore because he cheated, abused me, and took me for granted. I know he is not perfect and i am not perfect. I never cheated on him ever! But after looking back and till now my heart didnt want him anymore. I told him i didnt love him anymore in the middle of October. Now i am in a relationship with someone else and we fell for each other. Well my ex had the kids one night because we both take turns with co parenting. I left to my parents then left to see my new boyfriend. My ex showed up with the kids in the car and started yelling at us telling him he doesnt want anybody around our kids so my new bf got out the car to talk to him. But i told him about my ex and don’t get out the car because no matter what you say he will still fight. So my ex beat him up in front of me and the kids. He said he wanted the kids to see. My kids are 2 and 5. I tried to pull him off but my ex came after me. He said he was going to kill me and my new boyfriend. My new boyfriend was in shock so stood there while my ex attacked me saying you want a weak nigga like that. He cant take care of you or our kids. The police got involved. Because i went to the police station. And my ex called saying he cool. He wanted the kids to come. And they took him to jail. I was sooo worried about my kids but they returned my kids safe and sound. And my ex in the car yelling i did it for you baby. Afterwards he kept calling me. And texting me i will not answer. Or forgive him for putting the kids in danger and hurting me and my bf. Now my bf wont answer my text. He said he failed me the kids his family and himself. I told him its not his fault. He even quit his job. He just went ghost….. what should i do?. I’ve spoke with his mom or text but that is all. Both of his sisters work with me but one of his sister does not like me. I feel like because she does not want me and her brother to be happy. I know when we started talking she went to my ex job asking him questions. Are you guys together are where do you live and do you guys live together. My ex doesn’t even know her to even have the right to go to a random mans job asking about his personal life. She lied to me and her brother said it was about food… then after the fight she went back to his job again looked around then left. She said she hasn’t talked about me… but told a co worker ever since my brother been with her he’s changed. She told me her brother could’ve died because it would’ve been all my fault and she told me to stay away. But went to my ex job the next dayI texted her but she didnt respond. They are Pentecostal. But i am not. And also i just wanted to make sure he was ok instead. But no response. Its been 6 days

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      December 14, 2017 at 2:03 pm

  19. Lala

    December 2, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    Hey,
    I think my ex bf is sending me neutral message like ‘ok good’ the first time i texted him remind a good bar we went to. But i also mentioned i go with a friend. He said ironically like enjoy your “friend”.
    3 days after i texted, talking about a restaurant we both like, wish him nice weekend casually, and he replied ‘and ?’, i said nothing just share thing reminding of you. He said ‘ do whatever you want dont need to tell me lol’.
    I feel he is still angry, should i go no contact couple weeks more or change topic that is more about him?
    Thamks

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      December 5, 2017 at 1:29 am

      Hi Lala,

      do nc again, do 45 days.. be active in improving yourself and in posting..

  20. Diane

    November 24, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    Amor,
    Would it be much harder for my situation to try to reconnect with a guy I met online but not official vs long distance that was official?
    I am working on myself by figuring out what I did wrong and how I can work through those mistakes. I’m using this time to really look at how I can grow.
    I’m not in a huge rush to say happy bday to him in December, I thought it would be one way to contact him again via email or fb . I do realize that even reaching out on the birthday could lead to no response. We are 43 days now with no talking.

    1. EBR Team Member: Amor

      November 27, 2017 at 5:17 am

      Yes, it will be harder..

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